My sources still say it's John L. Smith's job if he wants it. _________________ “I worry about getting the ship righted,” Leyland said, “because the ship’s not going right.”
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Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:16 pm
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For the record, this to me means nothing (to me at least). His team is playing for the NC, he wants no distractions. Wait for the announcement after the NC game. _________________ "But revenge is sweet . . . and I'm not going to make any predictions but I can tell you this, I can forgive but I'll never forget. I can promise you that."
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Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:20 pm
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NRK wrote:
moveon.org
For the record, this to me means nothing (to me at least). His team is playing for the NC, he wants no distractions. Wait for the announcement after the NC game.
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Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:55 pm
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Whiny Parks wrote:
Why do I get the feeling that NRK's "girlfriend" is really his ex-girlfriend, and he sits on the couch watching Grey's Anatomy with her picture?
He seems to be a bit of a clinger.
Uhhhh, I live with her. I will openly admit that I enjoyed the earlier seasons of Greys, before it became pussified it was a decent show. Now it sucks. Plus my ex-girlfiend was probably one the biggest bitches I've ever met. Hot, but a bitch. _________________ "But revenge is sweet . . . and I'm not going to make any predictions but I can tell you this, I can forgive but I'll never forget. I can promise you that."
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Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:05 pm
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Whiny Parks wrote:
NRK wrote:
Uhhhh, I live with her.
I know you do. I know. I know it's hard, but...
...maybe, it's time to move on. What do you say?
Okay, now that was good. _________________ "But revenge is sweet . . . and I'm not going to make any predictions but I can tell you this, I can forgive but I'll never forget. I can promise you that."
Until today, I was pretty optimistic that LM would be UM's next coach. There was enough coach speak from LM and support for LM to make me believe that it was going to happen. I also didn't want to believe that UM had actually fucked up so bad that it lost out on LM.
Well it happened. LM's statement is as strongly worded as it can get. MSC and LM obviously spoke and couldn't work out a deal. To save face, UM asks LM to tell everyone that he was just helping out with the search. Horseshit.
There is simply no justification for losing LM. Just hand him a $4Mill/year contract and tell him "see you at Schembechler Hall on the day after the MNC for your first team meeting. My assistants will work out the details for you."
The Athletic Department runs at about an 18 to 20 million dollar annual profit. Fuck, Michigan should have just paid him 5Mill per year and told him to hustle his ass up to AA immediately.
The Hoke Years are going to make the Bump Years look like the Fielding Years. _________________ Formerly known as Barry O.
Until today, I was pretty optimistic that LM would be UM's next coach. There was enough coach speak from LM and support for LM to make me believe that it was going to happen. I also didn't want to believe that UM had actually fucked up so bad that it lost out on LM.
Well it happened. LM's statement is as strongly worded as it can get. MSC and LM obviously spoke and couldn't work out a deal. To save face, UM asks LM to tell everyone that he was just helping out with the search. Horseshit.
There is simply no justification for losing LM. Just hand him a $4Mill/year contract and tell him "see you at Schembechler Hall on the day after the MNC for your first team meeting. My assistants will work out the details for you."
The Athletic Department runs at about an 18 to 20 million dollar annual profit. Fuck, Michigan should have just paid him 5Mill per year and told him to hustle his ass up to AA immediately.
The Hoke Years are going to make the Bump Years look like the Fielding Years.
Fielding, is it possible at all that having Les Miles as coach has taken on a life of its own and that it's not worth all the trouble? Is anyone?
I think the guy is a good coach but to hear everyone talk about it, he's the only one that could possibly coach Michigan and that's absurd. I'd have liked to have seen him here to see what he could do but at what point do you say "This is just not fucking worth all the circus that's been created?"
If he comes, so be it, but I'm starting to wonder at what point it's too much shit to deal with to make it worth it.
I have to think there are a few other coaches out there that could do as good of a job or better at this point.
Until today, I was pretty optimistic that LM would be UM's next coach. There was enough coach speak from LM and support for LM to make me believe that it was going to happen. I also didn't want to believe that UM had actually fucked up so bad that it lost out on LM.
Well it happened. LM's statement is as strongly worded as it can get. MSC and LM obviously spoke and couldn't work out a deal. To save face, UM asks LM to tell everyone that he was just helping out with the search. Horseshit.
There is simply no justification for losing LM. Just hand him a $4Mill/year contract and tell him "see you at Schembechler Hall on the day after the MNC for your first team meeting. My assistants will work out the details for you."
The Athletic Department runs at about an 18 to 20 million dollar annual profit. Fuck, Michigan should have just paid him 5Mill per year and told him to hustle his ass up to AA immediately.
The Hoke Years are going to make the Bump Years look like the Fielding Years.
Fielding, is it possible at all that having Les Miles as coach has taken on a life of its own and that it's not worth all the trouble? Is anyone?
I think the guy is a good coach but to hear everyone talk about it, he's the only one that could possibly coach Michigan and that's absurd. I'd have liked to have seen him here to see what he could do but at what point do you say "This is just not fucking worth all the circus that's been created?"
If he comes, so be it, but I'm starting to wonder at what point it's too much shit to deal with to make it worth it.
I have to think there are a few other coaches out there that could do as good of a job or better at this point.
I really thought that Miles was going to come to Michigan, but I've got to agree here. At some point, enough is enough. Michigan is too good of a program to continue to have this shit drag on. It's reached absurd levels.
Martin needs to think outside of the box and find a few quality guys that WANT the job, and go with the best of the group.
If it's not the right guy, you lose 3 or 4 games a year for the next 3 years, and see who is available then. Maybe Miles is your guy in 2010.
Fielding, is it possible at all that having Les Miles as coach has taken on a life of its own and that it's not worth all the trouble? Is anyone?
I think the guy is a good coach but to hear everyone talk about it, he's the only one that could possibly coach Michigan and that's absurd. I'd have liked to have seen him here to see what he could do but at what point do you say "This is just not fucking worth all the circus that's been created?"
If he comes, so be it, but I'm starting to wonder at what point it's too much shit to deal with to make it worth it.
I have to think there are a few other coaches out there that could do as good of a job or better at this point.
Yes, there may be other coaches out there that are just as good or better, but now I don't trust Bill Martin to find them. We have entered the Millen Zone: Martin might get lucky in the coaching search, like Millen gets lucky with the occasional draft pick. Otherwise, Martin has not shown one good trait in this coaching search. He's been out-maneuvered, out-bid, out-sold, and utterly incapable of identifying a successful solution.
But can you trust Bill Martin to make the right choice when he's sniffing around the likes of Ferentz and Hoke? I mean, Hoke. He fucking interviewed Hoke, whose claim to fame is being career loser in the MAC, almost beating Michigan in 2006, and losing to the worst Nebraska team in history by 1 point.
Imo, Miles is worth the circus. _________________ Formerly known as Barry O.
If it's not the right guy, you lose 3 or 4 games a year for the next 3 years, and see who is available then.
I'm on the Michigan Wolverine freeway right now, and I can see an exit off in the distance that's quickly approaching: "Notre Dame 2007."
Michigan is returning VERY little talent next year on both sides of the ball. Very soon, this year's recruiting class is going to get poached. This is not going to end well, primarily because Bill Martin couldn't stay within reach of a cell tower. _________________ Formerly known as Barry O.
If it's not the right guy, you lose 3 or 4 games a year for the next 3 years, and see who is available then.
Oh and there's one other problem with this. If some mediocre Carr Clone (TM Bill Martin) becomes coach and goes 8-5 for a few years, he is NOT getting fired by Bill Martin. Michigan will just keep him going with the "wait till next year" chorus.
That's why this hire was crucial. It could reinvigorate the program before it got any worse. In theory, a good hire could use the Brung Trio (helmet, fight song, documentary) to make Michigan annually relevant in the MNC picture, not use the Brung Trio just to limp to 8-5 every year. _________________ Formerly known as Barry O.
If it's not the right guy, you lose 3 or 4 games a year for the next 3 years, and see who is available then.
I'm on the Michigan Wolverine freeway right now, and I can see an exit off in the distance that's quickly approaching: "Notre Dame 2007."
Michigan is returning VERY little talent next year on both sides of the ball. Very soon, this year's recruiting class is going to get poached. This is not going to end well, primarily because Bill Martin couldn't stay within reach of a cell tower.
Two things here...
First, Michigan can't go the route of ND. Bo and Greg[g] said so.
Second, the recruits getting poached is all the more reason to make a decision and move on. If you're going after Miles, it's only possible if they have an agreement and he lies his ass off until after the NC game. By then, you're fucked w/ regard to the recruits.
Maybe. That's a good point. But I think landing Miles offsets the damage. Landing a coach fresh out of a MNC game has some cache' to it. Especially if the dude is an alum and former player. I imagine that's a pretty powerful recruiting combo.
Otherwise, I agree with you. Waiting until January just to end up hiring English or Hoke is disasterous. And that's not hyperbole. _________________ Formerly known as Barry O.
You tools don't get it. If I'm upset, it's not because I'm worried about "going the route of ND." I'm worried about not getting better because this is rock bottom. If you don't believe me, get back to me and tell when was the last time Michigan lost six of seven to OSU.
It is very hard to find a coach as bad as Lloyd Carr. They may be determined to do it, but it will not be easy.
I'm entirely bored with FY's paranoia/freak out/sky is falling posts. So fucking gay.
And I don't get this Hoke paranoia. Only way that guy gets hired is if Lloyd has a ridiculous amount of sway. If he still had that much sway in the process, MSC/Martin probably wouldn't be offering the job or "consulting" with Miles, would they?
I'm worried about not getting better because this is rock bottom. If you don't believe me, get back to me and tell when was the last time Michigan lost six of seven to OSU.
Michigan is already at rock bottom? That logic is so faulty that I weep over the thought that you are going to become a teacher someday. Seriously, don't you see anything wrong with that statement? Do ya think there may have been a few ND fans saying: "Oh quit worrying, this is rock bottom. Hiring Charlie Weiss will be fine. Or at least it can't get any worse. Fight Song! Helmets! Tradition!"
BoKnows wrote:
And I don't get this Hoke paranoia. Only way that guy gets hired is if Lloyd has a ridiculous amount of sway.
UM, have you seen anything in the last month that would indicate otherwise?
Let's do the math. Candidates considered: Carr's left hand (English), Carr's right hand (DeBord), Carr's left nut (Hoke), Carr wannabe (Ferentz). The coach at RUTGERS turns down the job. Could it be because Carr's office will be literally down the hall from the new HC? And you can't say that Friday's call between LM and MSC evidences that Carr has no sway. MSC made that phone call for one reason and one reason only: Your empassioned email. Well done. _________________ Formerly known as Barry O.
We've been over this before. Unless Jim Harbaugh gets the job and brings Stanford's academic requirements with him (and he wouldn't), that's not relevant. ND lives in a different world.
Carr hates Miles. We now KNOW that MSC and Coleman called Miles, likely to make a run at him. If that's not a sign that Carr is losing favor in this process, what is?
Do you know who leaked it that Hoke has talked to Michigan? Hoke. He also told the media he was talking to Washington State. The guy wants to make a name for himself and Michigan might just be helping him do it. DeBord and English could very well be courtesy interviews, too. Hell, OSU humored Fred Pagac and Chris Spielman at this time six years ago. I'll believe your Apocolypse Now shit when I see it.
Maybe, just maybe, the massive criticism he received from the sailboat shit was enough to wake Martin up.
Nice shot at me for the email, too. You really are a fucking idiot sometimes.
I love how you continue to get blamed for my obnoxious Fight song, rivalry comment.
Sorry.
Yeah, I never said anything about the fight song or the head gear.
I did mention the rivalry. Because, you know, those two programs have totally dominated the conference for 40 years or something like that.
Buffoons like Cooper and Carr put their fans through a lot of relative strife, but still couldn't get down to that elusive "ND level" DHall and Fielding are so fond of referencing at every turn. It wasn't for lack of effort.
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Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:41 am
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Fielding Yost wrote:
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Okay this has been bugging me too long. Why is there an M in front of the NC every time you refer to the National Championship game? _________________ "But revenge is sweet . . . and I'm not going to make any predictions but I can tell you this, I can forgive but I'll never forget. I can promise you that."
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Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:55 pm
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I seriously need an answer. _________________ "But revenge is sweet . . . and I'm not going to make any predictions but I can tell you this, I can forgive but I'll never forget. I can promise you that."
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Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:35 pm
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Greg[g] Schultz wrote:
I'll lay 10-1 he used it to mean mythical.
Reading what other people have told me, and talking to people about the Mich coaching situation....it seems to me like you two are the only ones who are completely calm about everything.
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